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hah: moje mnenje je da si največji minus pokala slovenije še dobro da si edini

ejga: dragi hah, ali je tvoje mnenje o pokalu slovenije edino to, da sem jaz smotan. Dajmo na dan z mnenji!!!!!

hah: pismo si smotan ejga

ejga: Potem pa vse tiho je bilo. Baje se za naslednjo sezono pripravlja kup sprememb, pa ni nikjer nobenega predloga. Predlagam, da grejo vsi v ORC, v open pa naj bo samo absoluten rezultat. Monotipi pa itak ne zaživijo, ker se tam predobro vidi kam kdo spada.

Raven: http://forums.portlandmercury.com/member.php?u=81517

Pokal Slovenije: Rezultati so dopolnjeni. Na Skipper Cupu v aboslutnem po pomoti niso bile vštete jadrnice od 13. mesta naprej.

ejga: Mesto n.m. DNC in 7 Igrača DNC in 5 Mazi DNC in 2 Živa DNC in 1 Cesarica DNC in 3

Pokal Slovenije: ejga, če želiš, da je problem rešen, bi zelo pomagalo če ob takem komentarju navedeš še ime jadrnice, kjer si to opazil.

ejga: Rezultati so čist mem. Glej rezultate open in jih primerjaj po klasah in skupno. Kako je mogoče da imajo v svojem razredu vpisan nek rezultat, v skupnem pa DNC?

Pokal Slovenije: Rezultati sedaj posodobljeni. Se opravičujem za dolgo čakanje.

Miran: Razpis za zaključno regato je objavljen na spletni strani jahtnega kluba Portorož

Artemis: Jaz pa bi rad izvedel kdaj bo SPJ pri JZS �e objavil rezultate serije in ali sploh bo 8. regata in kdaj bo razpis ter podelitev. Popravilniku je �e vse zamujeno.

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Pokal Slovenije: Zlivaš jo samo ti. Prosim brez neprimernih in neodraslih komentarjev

ejga: Ubogi Gorazd. Dela zastonj v svojem prostem času, zdej pa še vsi gnojnico po njem zlivamo.

Pokal Slovenije: To bo tako ko bo JZS tako rekla. Izola Boat Show še vedno velja.

ejga: 3.6. Neuradni rezultati morajo biti objavljeni najkasneje v treh urah po prihodu zadnje jadrnice v cilj, uradni rezultati pa pred razglasitvijo in v treh dneh predani SPJ pri JZS.

ejga: Zapleta s Seascapeji nimaš več.

ejga: Mal si preberte!!! 1.3.3. Regata, ki poteka v kombinaciji s kakršnokoli drugo regato, ne more biti uvrščena v serijo regat za Pokal Slovenije.

ejga: Seascape 18 ne šteje za pokal slovenije, pa tudi regata, ki je imela razpisan ta razred ne more štet za pokal slovenije!

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green dragon: kuga

Pokal Slovenije: Rezultatov še vedno ni, zaradi zapleta z razredom Seascape 18.

nekdo: bogi izbrisanec.. demonstracije kličejo

izbrisani: Aja. Rezultatov pa se vedno ni. Samo - tudi drugi in ostali so pomembni, ne samo prvi!

izbrisani: Ej, mene so preprecili dostop do pogovora na drugem el. naslovu. Ocitno sem bil prevec tecen. Bravo Gorazd!! Zivela demokracija!! mkm

samo: Fantje, evo rezultati: Scorpio vodi v ORC, Maxim pa v open!

ejga: No, danes je že jutri, pa še vedno nič.

Gorazd: rezultati Izola Boat Showa in Skipper Cupa jutri tukaj!

ejga: Išči po internetu, in če kaj najdeš povej še ostalim.

Miran: Ali kdo ve, kje je mogoce videti rezultate Izola Boat Show regate?

donco: Rezultati regate Skipper Cup 2009 http://www.skipper.si/rezultati_.html

Lucy in the sky: Todo, tebi pa samo to, drugi� po�lji takle komentar raje na Zvezo in ne napadat nekoga ki je svoj prosti �as namenil nam vsem, Dobr vetr vsem, Pero

Lucy in the sky: Zgleda kot da PS2009 ne spada po na�o zvezo ampak pod Hrva�ko al kuga.....

Lucy in the sky: Nedaj se Ines-Gorazd, mal se spomnte kako je blo na na jadralni zvezi, oziroma kako je letos ko o PS 2009 prakti�no ni bilo �e ni� napisanega...

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todo: Tole z rezultati regat je pa totalno neresno! fantje , če niste sposobni zadev furat tako kot treba potem je bolje da jih ni! Ali pa predajte zadeve ljudem, ki bodo pravočasno objavljali rezultate in furali stran tako kot se to dela!

Gorazd: Nehajte stokat, rezultati bodo ko bodo.. �e ne prej pa po Zaklju�ni ja! �e pa bi jih kdo rad prej pa vam lahko povem �tevilko ban�nega ra�una

ejga: Ja kaj se pa greste, saj je vse tako kot včasih, Rezultate boste videli po zaključni regati.

mkm: No, pa je petek, rezultatov se ni, jutri pa je naslednja dirka za Pokal Slovenije. Bravo fantje!

Pokal Slovenije: YC Burin je organiziral regato Izola Boat Show. �teje za Pokal Slovenije

ejga: pa sej burinova regata ne more štet za pokal.

Pokal Slovenije: Rezulati kmalu... so burinovci rabili nekaj �asa da so jih poslali

ejga: Se še ne ve do katerga petka.

mkm: Na rezultate bomo cakali spet do petka?

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Na Pokalu Val navtike, se je videlo, da zadeva deluje veliko bolj učinkovito ter "fer" do vseh, kot če sta štarta zamenjana (kot sedaj)

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Razlogi: razreda Open in ORC se v nobenem primeru ne točkujeta skupaj, torej je cilj čim bolj zmanjšati oviranje med razredoma na samem regatnem polju. Jadrnic v ORC je manj, zato naj štartajo prve (open velikih ne bodo ovirale, manjše jih ne bodo dohitele)

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Sem pa za to, da se uvede pravilo v PS, za obvezno ločen štart ORC in Open razredov, pri čemer ORC štarta prvi.

Gorazd - Eureka ST: To nisem napisal jaz ampak Bojan (RB). S tem je mislil, da je jadranje v ORC na nekoliko višji ravni (s tem se žal moramo vsi strinjati), vendar vse skupaj nima pomena v debati

samo: Zakaj bi se naj po ORC jadralo precej bolj po pravilih? Že res, da "začetniki" štartajo v open-u, ampak vseh ne dajat v isti koš. Tudi vseh ORC-jevcev ne precenjevat, Gorazd.

ejga: Pa sej pravm, da ne rabmo ne pravilnikov, ne odboriv , če se dela kr po svoje.

Eureka Rb: Mimogrede drugače ne bi bil problem saj so doktorji tako ali tako zraven po večini za zabavo

Eureka Rb: P�o pravilniku res nebi smelo biti skupaj, ker to pomeni vrjetno avtomatsko skupni �tart ORC in Open kar pa ni OK ker se jadra na ORC precej bolj po pravilih

Gorazd - Eureka ST: pa se je le na�el nekdo

ejga: Mal si preberte :TEKMOVALNI PRAVILNIK IN POGOJI ZA ORGANIZACIJO REGAT ZA POKAL SLOVENIJE

ejga: 1.3.3. Regata, ki poteka v kombinaciji s kakršnokoli drugo regato, ne more biti uvrščena v serijo regat za Pokal Slovenije.

ejga: Izola boat show regata in medi cup skupaj.

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Kdo vse pa dela po svoje?

ejga: Ja sej če dela vsak po svoje, zakaj pa pol sploh rabmo jadralno zvezo pa svet za velike jadrnice?

samo: Jaz ne bom tisti, lahko pa se kdo najde.

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Hja, če imaš tok želje okej. Se mi zdi povsem nepotrebno, že na Šavrinski smo za brezveze hodili na morje..

samo: Seveda ni obvezno, je pa odiranje. Bistven je sklep sveta za velike jadrnice pri JZS, da sme regata, ki �teje za Pokal SLO �teti le za pokal in ne �e za kak�ne druge naslove. Torej ena prito�ba na JZS in ta regata bo razveljavljena...

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Kaj pa je tu narobe? saj ni obvezno plačilo za vse jadrnice ampak samo za tiste, ki želijo tekmovati tudi za Medicus Cup

samo: Kaj pa pravite na to, da je Izola boat show regata (pokal SLO) razpisana tudi za Medicus cup (proti sklepom JZS). Za to pa ho�ejo �e dodatno �tartnino 20 EUR po jadralcu!!!

Gorazd - Eureka ST: hja pravi jadralci vozijo samo palice in mogoče trikotnike ;) če pa naj bo že navigacija pa naj je narejena tako da rabiš vsaj 1x jadro zamenjat v vsaj ene plovu

samo: No, navigacija ali ne, mislim, da ni vprašanje. Samo palic tudi ne moremo jadrat... Organizacija je slaba!!!

Gorazd - Eureka ST: opa, sem hotel pod tem imenom objavit

Pokal Slovenije: dvomim, to je bila le moja �elja ker je vsako leto kaj narobe na �avrinski, predvsem pri organizaciji (brez zamere JKL). Pa tudi taka navigacija ve� ne sodi v PS.. pomoje

samo: Gorazd, bo kaj z glasovanjem o odstranitvi Šavrinske regate s koledarja Pokala SLO 2010?

Pokal Slovenije: Piši na JKL

mitja: a cajtov pa ne bo za šavrinsko?

Pokal Slovenije: Rezultati so posodobljeni.

ejga: S pa pozabu napisat do kerga 5ka. Zakaj tale pogovorn ovn skoz utripa??

Pokal Slovenije: Rezultate lahko tu pri�akujete v petek, ogledate pa si jih lahko tu: http://www.jadralni-klub.si/regate/

mkm: Spostovana gospoda, ali lahko rezultate s Savrinske pricakujemo kmalu?

samo: kje so rezultati zadnje regate?

Gorazd - Eureka ST: res je, formule ki bi lahko vse barke izenačila enostavno ni... barke so preveč različne, da bi lahko bila. kar se pa melgesov tiče.. se pa strinjam.. to bo še zanimivo

pilot: Problem pri nas je ta, da je pripravljenih posadk in jadrnic za regate cca 70. Od tega je praktično vsaka jadrnica svoje poglavje in ni tiste formule ki jih lahko izenači.

donco: še malo pa bojo vsi melgesi v orc. Pol bo pa jamranja na pretek.

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Zato smo naredili ta pogovor. Da vsak pove svoje mnenje. Kaj čmo formule niso perfektne (vsaj nekateri tako mislimo), zato bodo stvar debate dokler bodo z nami

pilot: Men se zdi en sam jamr. Dejansko je najboljš da se zmente z Orlom, pa da vas vidmo.

pilot: Hoteli ste formule, zdaj jih imate, hočete druge formule, dobili jih boste, mene pa vseeno gledate od zad.

Pokal Slovenije: Sedaj si lahko pod novice-->orc certifikati ogledate trenutne certifikate vseh izmerjenih jadrnic. Tudi Elan 410 R

410 R: Vse je možno samo volje je treba pokazat

jan: Pri�li smo dale�! namesto da bi vas dru�il jadralni duh, se pa tu pri�kate.

SCORPIO: nas pa zanima zakaj ni možno pogledati ORC certifikat od elan 410 RACEShout!

Gorazd - Eureka ST: glasujem za odstranitev Šavrinske regate iz koledarja Pokala Slovenije 2010

Eureka ST: za merit moči je še boljše DP match race

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Samo: Lahko pa barke kaj med sabo zamenjate. :-)

Artemis: Vem kako hitro gre Artemis in kaksni koti so. Po 18 letih jadranja z njo vem vse. Priblizno dosegamo originalni pp izracun, orc pp pa ne.

Miha: Bi, sam nimaš pečice gor! :(

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mitja: jure ima dve ..

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mitja: 310 ;)

Samo: Mislim, da ste zreli za monotip...

Gorazd - Eureka ST: res zanimivo, če se vam zdi da ne dosegate tega kota.

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Hvala Dejan. Artemis ste kdaj primerjali vaš kot z našim? da se ve, nočem provocirati, ampak tukaj nekaj ne štima, a?

Demira-Dejan: Na kratko vam bom napisal kote v veter pri 12 vozliH vetra pa pol komentirajte. 1.DEMIRA TWA-37,2° 2.EUREKA TWA-38,4° 3. IN 4.Artemis in SCORPIO TWA-38.8° 5.TAIA TWA-39.1°

Gorazd - Eureka ST: certifikati so taki kot so in z njimi bomo tekmovali. Naj bi bili realni. Vseeno pa me �isto iz firbca zanima �e se ti zdi realno - Eureka GPH 625,9 , Artemis GPH 626,8? brez zamere

Artemis: Artemis sploh ne dosega hitrosti in kotov ki jih pp orc predvideva. Pravilni performance prediction je naredil in izracunal Rob Ball, designer. Zato bi moral biti gph visji. GS42R pa ocitno vozi vedno samo najboljsi, ce je vedno svetovni prvak!?

Gorazd - Eureka ST: Artemis, mislim da je Bojan mislil VMG, ko je rekel hitrost. �al mi je, ampak tudi sam sem mnenja da je va� GPH previsok. Skupaj jadramo �e 8 sezon in vem kak�na je hitrost barke. LP

mitja: Scorpio ima največkrat preverjeni certifikat in je OK. Barka pa ima še veliko rezerve in z malimi posegi jo je možno narediti še hitrejšo. Letošnji svetovni prvak v kategoriji velikih je grški Meliti IV, ki je optimizirani GS42R ver.1 kar je tudi Scorpio. Podobne barke bi vsem privoščil!

Artemis: Komentar 2. plova Val Navtike: Sploh ni res, da je Artemis hitrejsa od Taje in Eureke. Ko je bila Taja blizu nas, je jadrala cca 0.5 vozla hitreje, naredila pa je daljso pot. Zakaj se ne sprasujes glede ratinga Scorpio in Elan 410R, ki jim nihce ne more blizu?

Tim: In na FB.

Bojan: Cel kup slik in �lanek tudi na valovi speltni strani val-navtika.net

Artemis: Artemis je ženskega spola (pojem ženskosti-grška boginja plodnosti in lova) v slovenščini se ženska imena na is ne sklanja. Dober komentar, samo ta pripomba. Hvala

Demira-Dejan: Pozdravljeni jadralci. Na sobotni podelitvi pokalov za regato VAL Navtike je verjetno nekdo po pomoti odnesel pokal za zmagovalca v razredu ORC 3C - Demira. Če imate pokal pa bi ga radi vrnili pišite na dejan.presen@gmail.com

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